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September 14, 2008

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C. Arlin Talley

Clark, I agree with you that our lack of imagination and reliance on what we've always done stands in the way of progress and almost anything the Spirit urges us to do and be.

However, as much as respect Thomas Jefferson, Meriweather Lewis, and William Clark, ultimately the price paid by the indigenous peoples between the Mississippi and the West Coast of North America for the advance of the USA's interests was terrible, as it was from the beginning of our American adventure and exploration. Following the reference to their adventure, I wonder who will pay the price of our adventure and exploration.

Can we find more useful and less flawed analogies to talk about our dilemma?

Yes, we lack imagination and a willingness to throw our plans aside when confronted with God's plan. Recently one preacher asked, "How is the God who owns the future calling us to change for the sake of the world with a robust and winsome evangelical faith?” He asserted that the because the church belongs not to us, but to Christ, we need to change, adapt, even reform as necessary to follow Christ's lead.

Thanks for your insight into the dilemma of the church (not just PCUSA).

Gary W. Miller, Pastor, Minden LA

I have been reading about the missional church. Some of what I read is good stuff – not new stuff, but good stuff. You suggest we ought to be prepared for some unimaginable advance in being the Church. All I have seen of missional church’s novelty consists of old ideas expressed with a new bravado. It all has the ring of a mid-way huckster. A lot is suggested but nothing is delivered.
You say, “A missional church is built on the cultivation of imagination of regular, everyday Christians. If we are not yet fanning those flames, it’s time to get started.”
Do we want to sing old hymns using folk-rock rhymes? That idea has been around since 1970. Do we want to structure the church using regional or affinity groupings? The most of the Free Churches has done that from their inception. Do we want to start storefront Church on a shoestring budget? There is nothing new there. How about funding independent mission organizations, parachurch ministries, or emphasizing missions of compassion over evangelism? What about tall steeple Church creating a distance between themselves, their money and their leadership? Done that, done that, and done that.

You suggest that leaders ought to facilitate “everyday Christians” who have an imagination in need of cultivating. All the while, our denomination has gone a whoring and we stand ready to whistle a missional tune. I have a novel idea. Imagine that! Why don’t we take the Church away from the Reimaginers and simply live out Great Commission? If they won’t leave or we can’t vote them out, I would suggest we do the unimaginable and just walk away.

Clark Cowden

Arlin,

Thanks for your comments. The analogy is certainly not meant to justify mistreatment of Native Americans. In fact, the treatment of the Native Americans in that era, was part of a mindset that many white people were locked into, unable to imagine a different and better way of treating their fellow human beings.

Clark Cowden

Gary,

I think you final statement is correct that "they" won't leave and "we" can't vote them out. So, if your imagination only leaves you with the one option of walking away, the I wish you all the best.

Dave Moody

Clark,
I think it is Boorstein (sp) who said, "The impediment to true progress in any endeavor is never ignorance, but rather it is the presumption of knowledge." It was only people who knew the earth was flat, not those who weren't sure, who wouldn't go exploring. Something like that. Your piece reminded me of that dimly remembered quote.

I am nonetheless, unconvinced, that some great new way of being church is on the horizon. Gary Miller, albeit bluntly, seems to have something there. Scripture, a very imaginative text that, has something to say about fellowshiping as colleagues with those who would teach a different gospel (conflating several verses there, I know).

thanks for writing and thinking outloud,
grace & peace,
dm

Matt Ferguson

I someone asked me what I found attractive about the Reformed faith near the top would be the emphasis on the ministry of all believers. That sounds like a rather foundational mission statement and yet that statement has been around for centuries as a key part of Reformed faith, tracing it all the way back to the early church.

Thus, I think Gary Miller has a point in that there is really nothing new in all this but more a re-discovery, re-emphasis, re-direction, re-ect.

I believe much of this new missional movement lacks the theological foundation on key essential beliefs that make sure the building work is connected to the cornerstone or is not. "Theology matters" and it seems most the folks in the missional work want to put forth incredible effort in trying to make it not so.

Tod Bolsinger

Allow me to add a link here to a series of blogs and videos from Los Ranchos Presbytery where we are using the same metaphor of Lewis and Clark to describe the missional leadership needed for a changing world.

You can find the blogs at http://bolsinger.blogs.com/weblog/canoeing-the-mountains/

And just the videos here: http://www.youtube.com/LRPtv ("Canoeing the Mountains" is the series I refer to, but look also at "Biking to Church")

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